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Post Game Analysis: Phils vs. Padres - 7/24/05

The Phils, behind three hits from Ryan Howard and six very good innings from Brett Myers, beat the Padres 5-1 and completed a three game sweep. The theme for today's Post Game Analysis is bullpen usage. There were four decisions made by Charlie Manuel that deserve closer scrutiny so I will address them in turn but first let me send my condolences to Charlie on the loss of his sister. Gary Varsho will manage the next two games while Charlie is with his family.

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In the six innings Brett Myers pitched, he threw 95 pitches. In the bottom of the sixth, Myers was scheduled to bat fourth and would have been replaced by a pinch hitter had one of the first three hitters reached base. When no one reached base, Charlie replaced Myers with Ryan Madson to start the 7th inning with the Phils leading 4-1. There really isn't a clear answer to this question. On one side, Myers had only thrown 95 pitches (his season high is 112), was scheduled to face the bottom third of the Padres order, and the bullpen had been used a lot recently with the extra inning game on Friday (Madson, Cormier and Wagner would pitch in all three games of the series) and Tejeda pitching six innings on Saturday. On the other hand, it was a hot day, Myers would almost certainly venture into the 110 pitch range, and Myers had just finished a shaky sixth inning giving up a run on two hits. I won't criticize Manuel for pulling Myers as I think it wasn't clear cut either way and I'm in favor of erring on the side of caution when dealing with 24 year old pitchers.

There's another part to this decision, of course, and while at the game I was pretty irritated with Manuel. When sending Madson out to start the 7th, Manuel did not make a double switch which left Madson as the leadoff hitter in the bottom of the inning. David Bell and Mike Lieberthal had made the last two outs of the 6th and it would have been easy to put Jimmy Rollins in at short moving Tomas Perez to 3rd base, or, if Manuel was determined to give Rollins a full day off, Matt Kata could have been inserted at third directly (Kata ended up leading off the bottom of the 7th as a pinch hitter for Madson). The next inning, Manuel showed he's at least familiar with a double switch when Rheal Cormier relieved Madson and was placed in the 5th spot of the order vacated by Pat Burrell who was replaced by Endy Chavez, batting 9th. I am sure Manuel would say that he had absolutely no intention of letting Ryan Madson pitch two innings given Madson had pitched in all three games of the series. Since that was the case, Manuel could argue, it doesn't really matter that there was no double switch made and I suppose that's true. However, this leads into the original point that Myers probably should have gone another inning since Madson will now, in all likelihood, be unavailable today.

Let's briefly address the appearance of Rheal Cormier. Charlie Manuel likes to use four relievers in close games - Wagner, Urbina, Madson, and Cormier. You get the feeling that Manuel isn't all that enamored with Cormier but he needs a lefthander and he has no better options. Enter Aaron Fultz. Fultz (2.57 ERA, 0.98 WHIP (!), AND 7.5 K/9) has outpitched Cormier (5.55 ERA, 1.43 WHIP, 6.1 K/9) this year by a significant margin. Lefties are hitting .250 off of Fultz compared to .276 compared to Cormier. There simply isn't any good reason why Cormier is pitching before Fultz in close games. Let's hope that games like Friday where Fultz pitched great in the 10th and 11th innings against the Padres helps Fultz gain access into Charlie's Circle of Trust.

The last decision seems to be a running joke with Billy Wagner- let's see how many times Manuel can pitch his all-world closer without the game being at a critical juncture. In only 23 out of the 45 games Wagner pitched has the game been within two runs either way when Wagner entered. On first glance, that's awful. However, if I consult the Baseball Prospectus of Relievers Expected Wins Added report(WXRL) , I see that Wagner is 2nd on the Phils in pitching high-leverage (read: important) innings on the staff trailing only Ryan Madson by a small margin. Still, Wagner had pitched in the first two games of the series, the Phils have a critical series against the Astros starting Monday, and the Phils were winning 5-1 in the 9th. There's simply no reason to bring Wagner in to start that inning given he didn't need the work and, in fact, needed the rest.

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making up ground
With the Phils now just 3 games out of first, they have made up 6.5 games in the standings over the past 12 games. They were 9.5 out after dropping the first game of that series with the Nationals the weekend before the All-Star Break.

by jakewilson on Jul 25, 2005 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Manuel manages to win the game...
Which sounds good in concept, but is bad in reality.  If the Phils played one game the entire year, then, fine, make all the switches you want.  But, as with the double switch, Manuel has terrible planning skills and can only react to things that go on around him.  It is sad that people with the skillset of Manuel become baseball managers, but, apparently they have something that nobody else has...a good agent.

by jonk on Jul 25, 2005 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Michaels over Lofton
Does anyone know why Michaels played yesterday? It was a rightie and normally Lofton gets the games he's not injured against righties. I saw nothing in today's paper mentioning this. It wasn't a day game after a night game and it wasn't a case that Lofton has started alot of games in a row (he had off on Thursday against Odalis Perez). So what gave?

by J. Gambino on Jul 25, 2005 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Fultz vs Cormier
I dont have the time to break down into #'s, but
I think "naked eye" following shows that Cormier
has been pretty much of a disaster when starting innings, but very effective when coming in with inherited baserunners. I think its time for Cholly and staff to make Fultz the go-to guy as far as starting innings and use Cormy where is  most useful.

by HowardForeskin on Jul 25, 2005 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

the "good" relievers
I agree with Jon about the foolishness of using Wagner yesterday. The Phils' next seven games are at Houston and Colorado; facing Pettitte, Oswalt and Clemens they're not likely to win any blowouts, so we'll want to make sure the good relievers are available to lock down small leads. And in Colorado you know you'll need the whole bullpen pretty much whatever happens; maybe you'll get one game where you win 12-5 and Geary can pitch the last three innings, but otherwise you're probably looking at four or more pitchers per game.

At least he sat Urbina through the later part of the Padres series, and presumably Geary is good to go coming off the DL. If Fultz has earned some confidence, and/or if Cormier has figured something out--he was pretty good yesterday--maybe we can ride this out.

by dajafi on Jul 25, 2005 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Ryan Howard
I was at the game yesterday, and came away from it very impressed by Ryan Howard... the first double he hit was a laser beam off of the extended wall in left center.  It didn't look like the balls that other players hit, in general - it looked like a golf ball off of Tiger Woods' tee.  

I love Thome, but I really don't want to see the LH Cecil Fielder* go elsewhere.

by Shore on Jul 25, 2005 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I just started a diary
On Sickels' minorleagueball blog regarding the Howard/Fielder comp.

by phatj on Jul 25, 2005 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fielder
Cecil Fielder is a great comp for Howard.

Minor league numbers (from thebaseballcube):
Fielder: 624 G, 2301 AB, 138 HR, 289 BB, 525 K, .296/.378/.541/.919
Howard: 444 G, 1637 AB, 94 HR, 206 BB, 517 K, .290/.373/.528/.901

Howard's strikeout rate is a bit higher, but otherwise their numbers are virtually identical (except for the number of games).

by phatj on Jul 25, 2005 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

late starters
How old was Fielder when he came back from Japan? I think he was in his late 20s, which would mean he really established himself as a big-league slugger at a significantly older age than Howard is now.

Those numbers really are spooky similar. Fielder isn't on Howard's "comparables list" as compiled by Baseball Prospectus, but I wonder if that isn't more a flaw in their system than proof of underlying dissimilarities. Anyone?

by dajafi on Jul 25, 2005 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fielder turned 27
... in September of 1990, his first season back from Japan. So he really was just a year older than Howard is now. He also had parts of several seasons with the Blue Jays prior to going to Japan, posting OPSs of .885, .547, .905 and .720, but never playing a full season (was he injured a lot back then?).

I don't have a BP subscription, so I can't comment on their comps system.

by phatj on Jul 25, 2005 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

A good point
... was brought up on minorleagueball. Fielder was apparently a high school draftee, and thus was 2-3 years younger than Howard at each level of the minors. That's probably why he doesn't show up on Howard's comps list on BP.

by phatj on Jul 25, 2005 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

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