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Just who's clutch? (pitching edition)

In Monday night's game against the Giants, Jon Lieber was undone when, with two out a man on third, he HBP'd Omar Vizquel, served up an RBI double to J.T. Snow and allowed a three-run homer by Moises Alou. For the rest of his game, Lieber was pretty much fine, but this trend of one meltdown inning per start has held through much of his season. Lieber seems to throw either 1-2-3s or crooked numbers, with little in between.

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Then there's Robinson Tejeda. Yes, he got waxed last Friday night by the Pirates, but for much of this season he's been a veritable Houdini, repeatedly making good pitches with guys on base to minimize the damage or escape entirely unscathed. It's almost enough to make you wonder who's the veteran in his mid-30s, and who's the rookie with barely 100 innings over AA ball...

Here's a selected list of Phils pitchers and their batting average and OPS allowed with opponent runners in scoring position:

Name AB OBA OOPS
Billy Wagner   38 .132 .441
Robinson Tejeda   70 .157 .601
Vicente Padilla 112 .179 .626
Ryan Madson   67 .209 .640
Brett Myers 138 .225 .724
Rheal Cormier   39 .256 .713
Jon Lieber 114 .289 .889
Cory Lidle 152 .349 .985

So we've got three 25-and-under guys (Tejeda, Madson and Myers) who seem to "bear down" and make pitches when they really need to. Their combined salary? About $1.1 million. (And then there's Padilla, whose work in this situation sure seems to run counter to the complaints of Chris Wheeler and others about his "space cadet" tendencies.) By contrast, Lieber and Lidle have done some of their worst work in game-changing situations. These two mid-30s veterans are pulling in close to $9 million between the two of them.

The point here isn't to rip the veteran starters; to some extent, those bad numbers could be the result of lucky bounces, quality of opponent hitters, bad karma or what have you. And the Lieber/Lidle pattern of smooth sailing or disaster, as opposed to the Tejeda tightrope act, is arguably easier on the bullpen (not to mention the digestive system for those following at home). But I do wish the Phillies as an organization would demonstrate some knowledge of this information rather than just mindlessly genuflect at the altar of "veteran presence."

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Worrell and Adams
They're also high on that list.  Great piece - this franchise will never reach the heights it can until it gets rid of its attachment to "veterans who know how to win."

Think about it - if the Phils' brass ran the Braves this year, Mondesi and Jordan would still be in the outfield and Franceur and Langerhans would still be in the minors.

by David S. Cohen on Aug 23, 2005 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

re: Worrell and Adams
I was going to include them--certainly helps make my point. But I felt like it would be overkill...

...ah, what the hell. Worrell: 23 at-bats, OBA .348, OOPS 1.060. Adams: 19 at-bats, OBA .368, OOPS 1.240. Considering that both were valued for that same "veteran presence," it's fair game.

by dajafi on Aug 24, 2005 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tejeda/Lieber
I guess the Phils haven't looked at these numbers, since Tejeda is being skipped this week so we can get back to Lieber more quickly.

by dajafi on Aug 24, 2005 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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