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The Mitchell Report and the Phillies

As anyone following baseball knows, the Mitchell report comes out today.  Rumor has it between 60 and 80 players will be named, including former MVPs and All-Stars.

Most Phillies fans know about the team's storied past involving amphetamines and other drugs in the late 70s and early 80s.  And most fans assume that many of the members of the crazy 1993 team were on various illegal substances.  (After all, is there really any other way to explain Lenny Dykstra and Darren Daulton?)

But what about the current Phillies?  Are any of them going to be on the list?  Other than the high-profile incident involving Bret Myers and his wife and a couple of minor incidental players having violent pasts, this team has been embraced by the fanbase partly because it seems like it's made up of a bunch of good guys - guys who have fun, play hard, want to win, and don't do anything stupid off the field.

But none of us knows these guys other than what we see on TV and at the games and read in the papers and online.  There's no reason to think that just because they come across well to us they're not as guilty of using performance-enhancing drugs as David Segui.  I'd be saddened if Jimmy Rollins, Ryan Howard, Cole Hamels, or Shane Victorino were on the list, but there's really no basis to be surprised.

All of the Phillies, like all of MLB, have been part of baseball culture, and baseball culture, pretty much from the invention of the game, has relied heavily on performance enhancement of all kinds - legal and illegal.

As 2pm approaches, there's no reason to hold unrealistic hopes that the Phillies are going to be exempt.

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Re: The Mitchell Report and the Phillies
I hope the entire team is on the list, cause if they aren't, then there was SOMETHING that they could have done last year to have been better.

If you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin.

by jonk on Dec 13, 2007 10:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: The Mitchell Report and the Phillies
The whole steroid witch-hunt bores me. It all stems from how strongly the pharmaceutical industry owns this country.

by Baerwcb on Dec 13, 2007 11:18 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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Remember: "I have here in my hand a list of 205--a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party"

This is very McCarthyesque.

by FuquaManuel on Dec 13, 2007 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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Seems like Roger Clemens was juicing with the Yankees. Can't say that one surprised me at all.

The high profile names will take a hit, but I think there's safety in numbers with this report. The story is going to be "everyone is on roids" so I actually think a lot of the individual guys will end up getting off fairly easy.

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by JasonB on Dec 13, 2007 11:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: The Mitchell Report and the Phillies
I think you're right on here.  The guy who's going to come out looking the best today is Barry Bonds.

by David S. Cohen on Dec 13, 2007 11:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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Definitely. It's pretty clear that Bonds just got sick of inferior players like Sammy Sosa beating him in the stat column and wanted to show what a truly great player could do on the same juice. His HR record is bogus, but not his status as the greatest hitter of his generation.

by taco pal on Dec 13, 2007 11:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: The Mitchell Report and the Phillies
Bergen County newspaper is reporting that Clemens and Pettitte are on the list and lots of Yankees too.

by David S. Cohen on Dec 13, 2007 11:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: The Mitchell Report and the Phillies
Since Mitchell was (and will be, once this is over with) a director with the Red Sox, brace yourselves for some NY-centered media backlash.

If you haven't already, I'd recommend everyone read Howard Bryant's piece over at ESPN.

by Alex Falzone on Dec 13, 2007 11:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: The Mitchell Report and the Phillies
A report on CNBC reported about 25 names and then was taken down quicky.  Phillies named were Dykstra, Nunez, and David Bell.  Big name players named were Bonds (Obviously), Clemens, and suprisingly Pujols.

by brandon on Dec 13, 2007 1:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: The Mitchell Report and the Phillies
Yep they apparently named pencil bat himself, Abe Nunez which really bodes well for Bonds if guys like Nunez juice and still can't hit more than 5 hr

by brandon on Dec 13, 2007 1:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: The Mitchell Report and the Phillies
Paul Lo Duca's on the list. Good for him.

by dajafi on Dec 13, 2007 2:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: The Mitchell Report and the Phillies
Way to get that contract done with the Nats just in time...
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by JasonB on Dec 13, 2007 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: The Mitchell Report and the Phillies
Bill Plaschke, the anti-Moneyball svengali who drove Paul DePodesta out of L.A., completely turned on Lo Duca today.

by taco pal on Dec 14, 2007 12:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: The Mitchell Report and the Phillies
No current Phillies on the list.
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by JasonB on Dec 13, 2007 2:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: The Mitchell Report and the Phillies
I guess we can't fault David Bell for not trying?

by Seth on Dec 13, 2007 4:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sure we can!
He shoulda tried HARDER, dammit!

by Alon on Dec 13, 2007 10:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: The Mitchell Report and the Phillies
Was the Abraham Nunez listed the one that played for the Phils? There are a couple Abe Nunez's I believe.

by Baerwcb on Dec 14, 2007 9:52 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: The Mitchell Report and the Phillies
That was a fake report, as far as I can tell.

by WholeCamels on Dec 15, 2007 10:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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