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Obligatory Winter Meetings Article

Okay, it's not as bad as all that. I love the winter meetings and I know I'll be checking the web every five minutes all week if I'm not in meetings. But from a Phils perspective, I'm just not sure what to write here. The Phillies themselves are pretty much on record as saying they don't expect a lot of action in Nashville this week, and it seems like all of MLB is a bit baffled by a market that still is in the process of definition with big names like Santana and Cabrera still in play.

That said, let's take on a couple topics here:

  • The search for pitching. If the Phils do anything, it likely will be to trade for a pitcher, whether starting or relief. Among the free agents, they've been linked with Hiroki Kuroda, Carlos Silva, Kris Benson and Bartolo Colon; the first two will be too expensive, and the last two don't offer much reassurance for a rotation already full of injury risks. Trade candidates mostly include the Ghosts of Bad Contracts Past, such as ex-Phil Vicente Padilla, Jason Marquis and Matt Morris. Given their dearth of prospects--a limitation that bars them from serious pursuit of the likes of Johan Santana, Dan Haren and Erik Bedard--the Phillies probably will need to accept someone else's salary dump if they trade for pitching. Relief options are slightly more palatable, featuring the likes of LaTroy Hawkins and Jeremy Affeldt.

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  • Free-agent watch. Two members of the 2007 Phillies, Aaron Rowand and Kyle Lohse, might be the most appealing players left on the market. Baseball Prospectus reports today that Rowand is "close," but with who, and for what (ha ha) are unknown. The Phils reportedly are willing to pay Rowand what he wants ($10-12 million per year), but not for as long as he wants (five years). Lohse, meanwhile, seeks a five-year deal--which is madness for any pitcher, but particularly for a guy with a sub-.500 record who's only once won 14 games or pitched 200 innings (both 2003).

  • The Rule 5 (not V) draft. Pat Gillick loves this meetings-closing exercise, though his first two years haven't yielded anyone who's made the roster (Chris Booker in '05, Jim Ed Warden and Alfredo Simon last year). But he'll likely try again for a last-reliever or spare-bat option. For a great rundown on some possible good fits for the Phils, visit our pal FTN here.

Feel free to add your guesses, hopes and gripes here as the week unfolds. My personal hope is that Gillick goes back to the Ed Wade well in Houston and pries loose outfielder Luke Scott to pair up with Jayson Werth for a strong right-field platoon.

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Re: Obligatory Winter Meetings Article
Call me crazy, but I'm actually ok with Matt Morris.   Its basically a one year 10.5 million contract (9.5 plus the 2009 buyout) and I"m guessing Pittsburgh would take a sack of potatoes and a season ticket purchase.  I would rather give up cash than prospects for a pitcher, right?

by Homer on Dec 3, 2007 1:15 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I like the idea in your diary. I'd take Morris and Bay if the price was right.
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by JasonB on Dec 3, 2007 3:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Why do the Phils announce before the meetings that they are doing nothing?  It's like the salary increase issue - why bother saying stuff like that.  Just do what you need to do, rather than showing your cards beforehand.

As a fan, of course, I want details.  That's why Andy Reid's press conferences and interviews are infuriating.  But, I think giving in to my fan-needs is stupid.  That's why Andy Reid's press conferences and interviews are brilliant.

by David S. Cohen on Dec 3, 2007 1:41 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I think this is more a case of trying to manage expectations than telegraphing to the world that they'll be sitting on their hands. It also strikes me that the things they'd likely be in on are all contingent at least in part on the big pieces (Santana, Cabrera) getting moved. So their chances to make some impact deal aren't even in their own hands.

by dajafi on Dec 3, 2007 1:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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To be clear, I don't think the Phillies are actually planning on doing anything major. But there's no harm in saying that, regardless of whether or not it's the truth. The harm comes from the opposite scenario - when you're actually desperate to make a deal and you admit it.

by taco pal on Dec 3, 2007 2:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Obligatory Winter Meetings Article
I really like the idea of a Luke Scott/Jayson Werth platoon in right if Rowand doesn't re-sign. Or Geoff Jenkins (hey, with Geary gone, we need to get another Geoff) if Scott can't be had.

Realistically though, I'm fine with a Werth/Dobbs platoon. That would only be slightly less productive than a Scott/Werth platoon.

Bartolo Colon seems like a low risk, high reward signing, if the Phillies can nab him. He's a proven #1 pitcher when he's healthy, so I'd give him a few million and then tack on a bunch of incentives.

What are the chances of the Phillies keeping Adam Eaton out of the rotation (perhaps moving him to do mop-up work in the bullpen)?

by Baerwcb on Dec 3, 2007 2:39 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Obligatory Winter Meetings Article
Milton Bradley wasn't offered arbitration... I wouldn't mind seeing him in the outfield.

by Homer on Dec 3, 2007 4:53 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I like Bradley, but I think he's going to be recuperating from getting body-slammed by his coach for a good chunk of next season.

by dajafi on Dec 3, 2007 5:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Obligatory Winter Meetings Article
Plus Bradley said he didn't like Philly and its fans.

by Baerwcb on Dec 3, 2007 5:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Obligatory Winter Meetings Article
How serious are the Phillies with Iguchi at third(as reported on their site)? Does anyone know his defensive capabilities there either? And do you think its a good move?

by fjg123 on Dec 5, 2007 9:45 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Obligatory Winter Meetings Article
I just saw on MLBTradeRumors that its very unlikely he will be back... But it seems PG is open to trading anyone even Carrasco for pitching.

by Homer on Dec 5, 2007 12:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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