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New (?) Way to Calculate ERA

I'm thinking out loud here, so I welcome your feedback on this one.  I doubt I'm the first to think of this, but a Google search along these lines has turned up nothing.

Let's start with the seventh inning of last night's game.  Jamie Moyer left the game with the bases loaded, no outs.  Geoff Geary came in and let Moyer's three runners score, along with another runner of his own.  He left with the bases loaded and one out.  Mike Zagurski relieved Geary, allowing two of Geary's runners to score.  He ended the inning leaving both of his own runners on base.

Now, according to traditional ERA calculation, Moyer gets credited with 3 runs in 0 innings because the three guys he put on base scored, even if after he left the game; Geary gets credited with 3 runs in 1/3 of an inning, because he got one out but one runner of his scored when he was in the game and two runners scored after he left; and Zagurski gets credited with 0 runs in 2/3 of an inning, even though he let up two runs, because both runners who scored on his watch were Geary's.

But why calculate ERA this way?  Why not split up the allocation of runs based on how many bases each pitcher is responsible for?

So, for last night's seventh inning, Moyer left with bases loaded and each of those three guys scored.  Instead of getting held responsible for 3 runs, why not 1.5 instead - 1/4 for the guy on first, 1/2 for the guy on second, and 3/4 for the guy on third?  That way, he's responsible for where he left the guys who ultimately scored.  Geary then gets credited with the other 1.5 runs (of the 3 overall we're talking about) - 3/4 for the three bases he let the runner on first move, 1/2 for the guy on second, and 1/4 for the guy on third.

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Likewise, for the next three runs, Geary gets a full 1 run for Brandon Phillips, whom he let on base and allowed to score.  Then, the next two runs, he gets only 1.25 - because the guy on second (1/2) and the guy on third (3/4) when he left scored under Zagurski's watch.  Zagurski then gets 1/2 for the guy on second and 1/4 for the guy on third for a total of 3/4 of a run.

To me, this seems much more intuitive than the standard ERA calculation of giving full run responsibility for a guy you put on base but that another pitcher allows to score.  It accomplishes two things: it more accurately limits the responsibility of the pitcher who left with men on base and it more accurately shows how the pitcher coming in afterwards does with inherited runners.  Both of these are natural faults of the traditional ERA metric.

There are certainly more advanced stats out there for evaluating relievers.  Baseball Prospectus has WXRL and ARP - win expectation and adjusted runs prevented.  But both are complicated and impossible to calculate quickly.  WXRL relies on a general win expectancy matrix; ARP relies on a run expectancy matrix.  My ERA proposal is easy to calculate with simple play-by-play information.

One detraction of my possibly-new formulation is that it doesn't hurt a pitcher who leaves the game with runners on base who don't eventually score or help a pitcher who is good at stranding runners, as it only counts runs that score.  This is certainly a detraction, and Baseball Prospectus's more sophisticated stats do account for this.

But, the normal ERA has this same fault.  Without resorting to the more complex and impossible-to-calculate-easily BP stats, wouldn't dividing up the runs give us a more complete picture of ERA?

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Re: New (?) Way to Calculate ERA
I think that idea makes tons of sense.  ERAs can be so misleading.  I think Loogys often have misleading ERAs for example.  Just anecdotally, it seems they often walkn the guy they are supposed to get out advancing runners at worst and doing no good at least.   Then, a righty comes in and get the side out, and the Loogy isn't punished, or the righty gives up the first pitchers run and not the Loogy's -- again not effecting the ERA of the pitcher despite him contributing to the run scoring.  

So you can have a guy like Fultz with a really low ERA who may or may not be pitching all that well.  

Anyway, I like your idea.  Go ahead and get it implemented. :)

by smitty on Jun 28, 2007 5:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: New (?) Way to Calculate ERA
Glad to hear this makes sense to someone else.  In fact, it seems so intuitive to me, that I just can't believe no one else has come up with this.  Have you heard/read of something like this before?

by David S. Cohen on Jun 28, 2007 6:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: New (?) Way to Calculate ERA
I proposed that either earlier this season or last season on philliesphans. Didn't cause a great stir. Seems simple enough that others must have had the thought too.

by EastFallowfield on Jun 28, 2007 6:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: New (?) Way to Calculate ERA
I had an idea like this last summer, but I never got it past the stage you are at. I think it almost has to be a "score" though and not a simple number like ERA, unless you find a way to multiply/divide to turn it into a number like that. Here were the ideas I had, off the top of my head.
  1. Inning matters. Generally this is the leverage statistic, but it should also matter in a reliever's score. In a vacuum, 27 outs is 27 outs, but we know it doesn't work like that, and getting 3 outs in the 9th in a 1 run game comes with extra baggage that getting 3 outs in the 6th doesn't.
  2. Where the runners were when you came in and where they were when you left is the most important. You wouldn't penalize for errors, same with ERA. If you enter a game with a runner on 2nd and 0 outs, for example, that guy could score without a base hit being recorded. Because of that, the "demand" to get out of the inning without giving up a run is lower than, say, coming in with a runner on 2nd and 2 outs. If you record an out, the guy can't score.
The way I devised it, and it might even have been something I wrote about on PhilliesPhans, is that you'd start with a "baseline" score in every appearance, and "points" would either be added or subtracted to your "baseline" based on what happened. Here's an example.

You enter a guy in the 8th inning, a runner on 1st, and 0 outs. Say your "baseline" score is 1.00. If you allow that runner to score, you would be deducted .50 points. In another scenario, say you come into a game with the bases loaded and 0 outs. Your "baseline" would be higher (or lower, depending on which way the scale would go), and if you only give up 1 run on zero hits, you'd actually earn positive points.

That probably sounds convoluted. I don't know of a great way to do it, that's probably why I scrapped it and moved on to something else, which I tend to do quite a bit.

by FTN414 on Jun 28, 2007 6:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: New (?) Way to Calculate ERA
Just charge them the fractions of runs as described, just as you do now with whole numbers.

by EastFallowfield on Jun 28, 2007 7:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: New (?) Way to Calculate ERA
Yeah, that really seems like the simplest idea.  It doesn't make ERA perfect, but it would seem to make it much more accurate.

by David S. Cohen on Jun 28, 2007 7:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Simplify it a little more?
I'd idiot-proof this even more. Charge one half of inherited runners who score to the pitcher who inherited them, and the other half to the pitcher who bequeathed them.

This would come out the same in the example given. It would be less accurate at the micro level, but I think it would even out more or less over the course of the season.

by phatj on Jun 28, 2007 7:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Simplify it a little more?
Not a bad idea, but I think the 1/4, 2/4, 3/4 method is easy enough.  If I get a chance at some point, I'll see about recalculating the Phils' season up to this point and see what the differences show.  Starting pitchers would obviously fare better across the board.  I bet middle relievers would fare worse, but not much worse because other relievers come in after them.  The relievers that would be affected the most would be the ones at the ends of games, since no one gets to split their runs with them.

by David S. Cohen on Jun 28, 2007 7:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: New (?) Way to Calculate ERA
i like where you're going with this, but like all stats it is imperfect because as ftn said baseball isn't played in a vaccuum. stats can get better but they will never tell the whole story. it would be nice if they could but they can't. at times i think fans who want everything to be quantifiable are just incredibly unsure of their own judgememt.

by erf on Jul 2, 2007 11:53 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: New (?) Way to Calculate ERA
So, have we decided on a method? I think the value of the run charged needs to be calculated based on where the runner was when he was inherited and what inning.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1302/697645918_0fdcae9b8e_m.jpg

Then you'd have to come up with a multiplier for the inning. Just my opinion and what I could come up with.

by FTN414 on Jul 2, 2007 2:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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