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Fraternizing With the Enemy (Part 3)

Four games against the Mets.  The Phils could be 2 games out or 10 at the end of this series.  Needless to say, it's big.  As I've done in the past (here and here), I exchanged questions with with Joe Janish of Mets Today about the state of our teams.  Here are his answers about the Mets.  Mine about the Phils can be found here over at Mets Today.

1) Beltran and Alou are back and hitting well.  Has this been the key to the Mets putting some distance between them and the Braves and Phillies in the NL East race?

Absolutely. Without Beltran and Alou hitting as well as they are, the Mets do not win at least a half-dozen games over the last 3-4 weeks. David Wright is also quietly (if that's possible) emerging as the team's MVP -- he hit .333 in July and is .413 so far in August.

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2) How has trade deadline acquisition of Luis Castillo impacted the team?

It's made a greater impact than most fans imagined. Castillo's defense,while not the Gold Glover he once was, has been a significant upgrade.He's also solidified the #2 spot in the lineup -- which for the Mets offense is a big deal. The lineup is filled with overly aggressive hitters, and the offense had tended to wait for the big inning or the home run. Castillo's game is a contrast  to that style -- he takes a lot of pitches and plays small ball. His presence has elevated the Mets' offense in that they now manufacture runs consistently -- much of it also has to do with him allowing Jose Reyes to run in front of him.

3) John Maine, Orlando Hernandez, and Oliver Perez - is it the pitching coach?

Yes and no. Maine was a highly touted farmhand in the Baltimore organization before flaming out in his 10-game audition with the Orioles as a 24-year-old. I think he simply needed more time to develop, and the O's weren't going to wait around. At the same time, Maine seems to be the type of guy who benefits greatly from guidance, and is willing to learn -- so being under Rick Peterson's watchful eye and getting to pick the brains of Tom Glavine and Pedro Martinez has undoubtedly affected his development. Perez needed a change of scenery -- he had completely lost his confidence in Pittsburgh, and then became confused by all the mechanical instructions they put in his head. Peterson corrected a few minor flaws in his delivery, gave him less to think about, and let him loose. You can see by the look on his face whether he's going to pitch a good game -- confidence is everything with him. As for Orlando Hernandez, I truly believe his issue was physical. El Duque was an excellent pitcher with the Yankees before undergoing rotator cuff in May 2003, and historically, it takes anywhere from 18-24 months for a YOUNG pitcher to fully recover (Hernandez may have been over 40 at the time of surgery, for all we know). Further, many who do come back have pitched more poorly the second year of their return. Though El Duquecame back to pitch effectively in 15 games in 2004, it may have been a mirage, and I think it took all of 2005 and most of 2006 to a.) get his shoulder completely healthy and b.) learn to pitch without the extra velocity he had prior to the injury.

4) Will Pedro return and have an impact?

The New York media and fans are waiting for him to ride in on a white horse, but I'm just not seeing it -- mostly due to what I said about El Duque in the previous question. Shoulder surgery is not like Tommy John surgery -- for the most part, people do not come back and pitch effectively. If they do, it's either for a very short period or it takes a very long time to get there. That said, I'm curbing my enthusiasm, and not expecting anything. If he can come in and pitch lights out, it will be a pleasant surprise -- but the Mets should be able to hold the fort without him. I'd rather see him come back close to 100% next spring,then chance a relapse by rushing him into games now.

5) How far do you see this team going this year?

If the Mets don't make the post season, it will be a major disappointment. How far they get in October, however, is too much of a crapshoot to predict, mainly because the Mets don't have a Roy Oswalt or a Tim Hudson (or a Cole Hamels, for that matter), their bullpen has been shaky, and the offense is not the juggernaut it was a year ago. I'm simply hoping to go to a few playoff games at Shea, and whatever happens from there will be gravy.

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Re: Fraternizing With the Enemy (Part 3)
Wright's recent at-bats have been little short of awe-inspiring. He's just locked in on each pitch, and he's hitting everything hard. Right now he looks like vintage Piazza, except with speed.

Alou has the best numbers against the Phillies this year, Beltran went on a home-run tear the last time the Mets came to town, and Reyes has tormented them his whole career thus far, but Wright is the guy who most scares me for this series.

by dajafi on Aug 27, 2007 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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I've always thought of Moises Alou as clobbering the Phils in his career.  But, his tOPS is 96 against the Phils.  (tOPS is his OPS against the Phils relative to his overall OPS.)  I guess it's just selective memory here.

(As always, praise be Baseball-Reference.)

by David S. Cohen on Aug 27, 2007 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Fraternizing With the Enemy (Part 3)
I'm almost too ashamed to admit this, but after a dramatic win over a NY team I often like to take a quick peek at what they're saying on WFAN the next day. Here's what I gathered this morning:
  1. One guy was bashing Glavine for not sucking it up and pitching the eighth. The Truly Great Ones in the Good Old Days, he says, didn't get tired when it counted in September and October. The other guy defended Glavine.
  2. Both bashed Jose Reyes.
  3. Both bashed Willie Randolph for not bringing Wagner into the game in either the 9th or 10th (they were probably right about this)
  4. Made excuses for Paul Lo Duca (I guess he's now the "Heart and Soul" of the Mets, which gives him immunity from criticism even when he almost singlehandedly costs them a game)
  5. Gave very little credit to the Phillies - the general tenor of what I heard was more along the lines of "how can you lose to that team?"

by taco pal on Aug 29, 2007 11:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Fraternizing With the Enemy (Part 3)
The Wagner criticism is the only one that's valid here. He absolutely should have come in for Howard, if the Mets really wanted to win that game.

by dajafi on Aug 29, 2007 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny
I do the same thing... check out FAN that is. It's like music to the ears.

I heard everything you did. They also roundly bashed the Mets bullpen as a whole.

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by JasonB on Aug 29, 2007 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Along those same lines
Check out this amusing blog post on the WFAN website. It's written by Ed Coleman, who I believe is the Jim Jackson equivalent for the Mets radio broadcasts.
Let's get one thing straight before the Mets embark on what's touted as a crucial 10 game road trip  -  7 vs. the Phillies and Braves, then 3 in Cincinnati.  As a matter of fact, 13 of the next 19 are against either the Phils or the Bravos, the Mets' two closest competitors in the division.  Showdown time, right?  Hardly.  There is no race in the National League East  -  there hasn't been a race, nor will there be one in September.  It's over, and it has been for quite awhile.  Ever since June 2.

*  *  *  

The Mets face a Phillies team that already is without two of their starting pitchers (Freddie Garcia and Jon Lieber) and now has their ace, Cole Hamels, on the disabled list.  Their # 2 starter, Brett Myers, is now closing and not faring that well.  Flash Gordon has turned out to be a flash in the pan.  The Mets will face these four starters in the upcoming series  -  J.D. Durbin, Adam Eaton (just coming off the D.L.), Jamie Moyer and Kyle Lohse (a retread from Cincinnati).  The Phils will get a big boost from the return of Chase Utley, but that doesn't solve their mound problems.

*    *  *

Expect to see a lot of Pedro Feliciano this week against the Phillies' and Braves' lefties and switch-hitters.  Opponents are batting just .177 against Feliciano, the 4th lowest mark among N.L. relievers, and lefties are hitting just .153 against him.  Steady as she goes, Pedro.

C U soon.

Eddie C.

Heh. Steady as she goes... Yeah, you just keep right on throwing Feliciano at us, New York. There's a real winner.

OK, no more gloating for me! Need two more wins first!

by taco pal on Aug 29, 2007 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Fraternizing With the Enemy (Part 3)
A Mets friend pointed out to me that Eaton is 5-0 with a 1.89 ERA against the Mets.  I guess Eaton is good for something!

by David S. Cohen on Aug 29, 2007 11:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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